NCRunners Middle School Elite Invitational 2018

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    kvsmith95 Edited
    Middle School Unattached/Club Athletes - Is it possible to open this meet up to unattached/clun athletes many of the actual Elite MS track athletes do not compete for the schools. I think that would great expand participation and competition for this “Elite” Middle Meet.
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    deiselio
    I personally don't think the meet should be opened up to unattached or club athletes. There is pride in competing for your school. There are plenty of meet available for those athletes to compete in. There are many middle schoolers who don't compete on a club team and it's their first time even running track in middle school.
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    jcreasy111
    Yes, the goal is to help and grow the sport at the middle school level, and give middle school programs another opportunity to race for their school. We want the meet to serve as an "unofficial championship" so teams are competing for a team title.
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    kvsmith95
    @PolkCounty

    Well, lots of kids don’t have middle school coaches who want to compete or give up a Saturday therefore they don’t sign kids up to compete. Lots of kids have pride in the school, but their middle school “coach” may not have the same pride in learning proper track coaching techniques so they do more harm than good to the development of kids who may have skills beyond the average middle schooler. Aren’t the high school meets that allow unattached high school aged athletes still considered “high school” meets.
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    Dfloyd12 Edited
    @kvsmith95

    I am in total agreement with you. What is really going on here is not inclusive it is exclusive. Once again, we will say that we are all about giving kids a chance to show case their talent. No, you are giving a certain group of kids. Kids that suit someone's agenda, the ability to show case their talent. I am not going to blame the kids for this. This is the fault of adults. Who want to separate, segregate, and come to the table with their own fears and faults. What is the problem with letting unattached or club kids run along side middle school kids or high school kids? How can this affect team scores? If there are several middle schools there. Then keep a team score card and rank the teams accordingly. The unattached and club kids would not be involved with that process. However, denying them the right to run on the basis of not being on a team is wrong.

    It is funny how when it comes to club track. There is never any problem with middle schoolers and high schoolers running for a particular club or unattached. Yet, there is always problems with letting those that are not affiliated with a middle school or high school run unattached or for their club at middle school and high school meets. What is really going on here? I have heard so many reasons that have not passed the smell test. The best one has to do with academic eligibility requirements. Well, if that is your rationale. Then simply ask each unattached or club registrant to send in a copy of their transcripts to prove their academic standing. Which brings up so many other issues. We demand all of these requirements from middle school and high school athletes. Yet who demands the same rigid standards of the adults coaching these athletes? What if you are in a school where the administrators do not care about sports in general or do not care about track and field specifically. What about schools who force a teacher into coaching track and field just to fulfill their agenda. When that particular teacher really does not want to coach in the first place? What about the AD who cares nothing about track and field at a particular school? What about the program who has a parent or parents on staff. Who look after the needs of their own children but not the needs of the entire team? What about the school programs that have 100+ kids on their team and because they are so big. Very few kids get any real coaching throughout the season? What about the programs that have a football coach acting as the track coach? Who's only real agenda has to do with getting his football players better? I could go on and on. I just do not understand why in 2018. We continue to separate and segregate those who have their own reasons for running either unattached or for a club or for a middle school or high school. Let the kids run in the purest sport there is. Track and field is all about numbers. You are ranked according to those numbers. It is not about how much money you have, or who is on a booster club, or what color you are, or where you come from. It is about how high or long you jump, or how fast you are. It is that simple. It is that pure. Why have we made it complicated?
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    kvsmith95
    @Dfloyd12 #100!! Well said!! Should be about the kids, about competition and about allowing the best to compete if they want because they the opportunity. Maybe not the intention of this “Elite” Middle School Championship meet, but the opportunity should exist. Also, many middle school kids and parents don’t know Club track is
    option, would be good for the sport in general.
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    kirkwalsh
    All: the intent of this meet was/is to create a place for NC middle school teams to compete against one another - for school pride - at the end of the season. No NC middle school is excluded, and all schools without current track programs are encouraged to start one so they can participate in the future. Similar to high school post-season meets, it's an effort to promote the sport of track and field at the middle school level; nothing more than that, all good intentions. The club season is GREAT as well, and is about to kick off with all-comers/USATF/AAU meets every week for the next 3 months.

    22 schools registered to date; excited for a positive end to the school season!!